Mr. Dana hoped the gentleman from Georgia did not want to inquire of his constituents whether they would consent to a treaty with France, in which we shall bind ourselves to pay a tribute. He trusted if that gentleman's constituents were thus to instruct him, he would refuse to obey their instructions. He hoped no member of this House could be prevailed with to set his hand to what would prove the death-warrant to the liberties of the country. Mr. D. thought, therefore, that no instructions were necessary on this subject; it is not a subject proper for deliberation in the American Congress, and no other terms of accommodation had been held out to us by that country. Does not Mr. Talleyrand, said Mr. D., complain of the Farewell Address of General Washington, and of the Speeches of Mr. Adams, and say that, before any treaty can be entered upon with us, some proof of our friendly disposition must be shown towards them, and that proof, he more than insinuates, must be a loan, or a tribute to the extent of our capacity to pay? If the despatches do not mean this, he did not know what they mean; and when Mr. Talleyrand was asked whether this was the ultimatum of the French Government, though he does not answer in direct terms, it is clearly implied that it is so.
What, then, said Mr. D., are our hopes relative to France? Does any body expect any thing from the terrible generosity of the Great Nation? Can we expect any thing from their justice, or, rather, have we not every thing to expect from their vengeance, if not prepared to meet it? Why do gentlemen tell the House of the danger of irritating France? He thought delicacy of this kind unnecessary, when speaking of a nation which has set at defiance every moral principle, which has taken and is determined to take our vessels, contrary to every principle of right. For himself, he felt no such delicacy; and, therefore, he was in favor of referring the resolutions under consideration. He did not think them so notoriously wrong that they are not fit subjects for deliberation.
Mr. J. Williams wished to say a few words in reply to the remark which had been made, that members who voted for the reference of resolutions, generally vote for the resolution itself. He believed he could produce twenty instances to the contrary, where references had been made, and the measures themselves afterwards have been disagreed to. He should give his vote in favor of the committal, because he wished to see the principles of these resolutions detailed; but he by no means pledged himself to vote for the passage of the bill.
The gentleman from Kentucky had spoken of two parties in this country, but that the decision upon a resolution of this morning proved that there is now a third party. He supposed the gentleman who had made the motion alluded to would have given some reasons why it ought to be agreed to; but not having done that, he voted against it.
[The Speaker reminded Mr. W. of the question.]
He then observed in reply to the remark of the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. R. Williams) with respect to treaties, that it was clear from the writers on the laws of nations, that when one nation breaks a treaty, it is no longer obligatory on the other party. But treaties are nowadays done away, and power substituted in their place.
According to the opinion which gentlemen had themselves expressed, Congress had already agreed to form different measures, which would involve the country in war. If the present bill was passed (and he doubted not it would be) it will be the fifth, though the gentleman from Pennsylvania has said that this reference will give the Committee for the Protection of Commerce and the Defence of the Country no new power, and of course, in his opinion, it could make no difference whether these resolutions are referred or not.
The yeas and nays were taken, and the question was negatived—42 to 41, as follows:
Yeas.—John Allen, Bailey Bartlett, James A. Bayard, David Brooks, Christopher G. Champlin, James Cochran, William Craik, Samuel W. Dana, John Dennis, William Edmond, Abiel Foster, Dwight Foster, Jonathan Freeman, Henry Glenn, Chauncey Goodrich, Roger Griswold, William Barry Grove, Robert Goodloe Harper, William Hindman, Hezekiah L. Hosmer, James H. Imlay, John Wilkes Kittera, Samuel Lyman, William Matthews, Lewis R. Morris, Harrison G. Otis, Isaac Parker, John Read, John Rutledge, junior, James Schureman, Samuel Sewall, Thomas Sinnickson, Samuel Sitgreaves, Nathaniel Smith, George Thatcher, Richard Thomas, Mark Thompson, Thomas Tillinghast, John E. Van Allen, Peleg Wadsworth, and John Williams.
Nays.—George Baer, jun., Abraham Baldwin, David Bard, Lemuel Benton, Thomas Blount, Richard Brent, Stephen Bullock, Dempsey Burges, John Chapman, Thomas Claiborne, William Charles Cole Claiborne, John Clopton, Joshua Coit, Thomas T. Davis, John Dawson, George Dent, Albert Gallatin, James Gillespie, Andrew Gregg, John A. Hanna, Carter B. Harrison, Jonathan N. Havens, Joseph Heister, David Holmes, Walter Jones, Matthew Lyon, Nathaniel Macon, Blair McClenachan, Joseph McDowell, John Milledge, Anthony New, Josiah Parker, William Smith, Richard Sprigg, jr., Richard Stanford, Thomas Sumter, Abram Trigg, Philip Van Cortlandt, Joseph B. Varnum, Abraham Venable, Robert Williams, and Matthew Locke.