In the Declaration of Independence, transportation for trial is alleged as one of the grievances imposed by the British Government on the colonies. Now it is done under the constitution, and under a republican Administration, and men are transported without the color of law, nearly as far as across the Atlantic.

I make no profession of sympathy for the men who have been denounced as traitors. I argue on the supposition that they are traitors; there is no need of much exertion in behalf of good men. Attacks on the liberty of the people are, as has been stated before, made always in the persons of the vile and the worthless. But when precedent is once established in the case of bad men, who, like pioneers, go before to smooth the way, good men tremble for their safety.

Mr. R. observed that he would not say much of the Commander-in-chief. The least said, till they knew all, was the best. He had always thought that there were more rogues than one. This business of canonizing and sanctifying men before they are dead, he did not like. In the State of Virginia they had been compelled to change the names of several counties. There was a time in which the name of Arnold might have been preferred, and perhaps there may now be places in the United States which derive their names from Burr.

Mr. R. could not admit the jesuitical casuistry which had been displayed with regard to an oath. If a man breaks the constitution, which they were all sworn to support, punish him. If the violator be Washington, Franklin, or Jefferson, Mr. R. would punish him, and he would also say, that no indemnity ought to be voted for him.

Mr. R. stated at some length the circumstances of the proclamation issued in England to prohibit the exportation of corn, when Chatham and Camden were in the Ministry, and who afterwards refused a bill of indemnity. Mr. R. observed that bills of indemnity were known to the English Constitution, and requisite in the case stated. But Chatham and Camden, though both the known and tried friends of liberty, here abandoned the popular ground, and rested their defence on arbitrary principles, while the wary Mansfield, an old tory and a high churchman, availed himself of the advantage, took up the cudgels for the people, and completely succeeded.

Mr. G. W. Campbell said the first inquiry that naturally presents itself, in discussing this subject, is, what has occasioned the measure to be brought before the House at this time? This answer is given—the conduct of General Wilkinson, in arresting Bollman and others, at New Orleans, and transporting them to this place for trial, under military orders, in violation of the constitution and laws of the Union. Suppose this to be the case, what remedy can the Legislature apply? Does the evil complained of arise from the want of laws to protect the liberty of the individuals and punish those who violate it, or from those laws not being duly obeyed? If the evil arises from a disobedience to existing laws, no act passed by this House can afford a remedy. Those entrusted with the execution of the laws may be stimulated to carry them into effect by this transaction, and to punish the aggressors, but it is no ground upon which this House can act, and no act that we could pass could, in any degree, affect the measures that have already taken place. The principal inquiry therefore appears to be, whether there is any law to punish the commission of such crimes as General Wilkinson is charged with? There can be no doubt on this subject; there are laws in every part of the Union to punish offences. If those persons were seized and carried away without legal authority, or a just cause that would excuse the act, it will be a false imprisonment, including in it an assault and battery—an offence punishable by law in every part of the United States. The offender may be indicted, and, on conviction, fined and imprisoned according to the nature of his offence. He may also be sued by the party injured, and damages recovered in proportion to the injury sustained. This is the remedy afforded by the law in such cases, and it has been considered sufficient to correct the evil.

It has not been pretended that General Wilkinson, if he has acted in the unwarrantable manner stated on this floor, cannot be punished according to the nature of his offence; and it has already been stated that he is liable, if guilty, to be punished by indictment, and be made to answer in damages by civil suit. With regard to the violation of the constitution said to have been committed by General Wilkinson, in not obeying the writ of habeas corpus issued by the judge at Orleans, I may be permitted to observe that this part of the subject does not appear to have been well examined by those who have spoken in favor of the measure. The words of the constitution on this subject are, art. 1. sec. 9: “The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when, in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it.” This provision evidently relates to Congress, and was intended to prevent that body from suspending, by law, the writ of habeas corpus, except in the cases stated, and has no relation whatever to the act of an individual in refusing to obey the writ—such refusal or disobedience would not certainly suspend the privilege of that writ, and must be considered in the same point of view as the violation of any other public law made to protect the liberty of the citizen. In the present case, however, if there was a refusal to obey this writ, it was a violation of an act of Congress, establishing that part of Louisiana where this transaction took place into a Territory, which expressly declares that the inhabitants of the said Territory shall be entitled to the benefit of the writ of habeas corpus, and it is punishable as such; but it cannot be considered a breach of the constitution in any other respect than the violation of any public law made in pursuance of that constitution would be, and of course cannot require legislative interference. With regard to the other three articles of the constitution, to wit: the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments thereto, said to have been violated by the conduct of Wilkinson, a very brief examination will show that there are provisions by law in every part of the Union to enforce obedience to those parts of the constitution and punish those who violate them. The first of these articles merely declares the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, &c., against unreasonable searches, seizures, &c.; and that no warrant shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, &c. The first part of this only can relate to the present case, for it is not alleged that any warrant was issued; and every law existing in society for punishing offences against the persons and property of individuals, is calculated to enforce obedience to this provision. If a man is seized without legal authority or a just cause, cannot the offender be punished? He certainly can—and in what other way could you enforce obedience to this provision? The other two articles before mentioned can certainly have no bearing on the question before the House, they merely relate to the manner in which, and the place where offenders shall be tried—they are directory to the Legislature and to courts of justice; and it is not stated that either the one or the other have acted contrary to their provisions. No attempt to try these persons was made by General Wilkinson; he sent them to this place, they were delivered to the civil authority, and their case is now under legal adjudication. The courts of justice are the proper tribunals to decide, according to existing laws, where they are to be tried and in what manner. We are told, however, sir, it is necessary to make provision by law to enforce obedience to the writ of habeas corpus, to punish those who may refuse to grant it. With regard to the latter case, there is not the least ground of complaint—the writ has not been refused in any instance when demanded. It was issued at New Orleans, and also at Charleston, and indeed it is not pretended the civil authority have on any occasion violated this writ. It has, on the contrary, yielded the most prompt obedience to it in every instance.

If it was made to appear to me that there were not provisions, by existing laws, to enforce obedience to the writ of habeas corpus, and to punish the violations of it, I would be among the first to make such provisions. But this has not been shown, and cannot, I presume, be proved to be the case. In every State, and in every Territory, as far as we are informed, there are laws to enforce obedience to this writ, and to regulate the mode in which it shall be obtained and prosecuted; and, by the thirty-fourth section of the act to establish the judicial courts of the United States, it is declared that “the laws of the several States, except when the constitution, treaties, or statutes of the United States shall otherwise require or provide, shall be regarded as rules of decision in trials at common law in the courts of the United States, in all cases where they apply.” This provision must relate to criminal as well as to civil cases. You have, therefore, the same provisions, at least, to enforce obedience to the writ of habeas corpus in the courts of the United States, that there are in the respective State courts; and it has not been shown that these provisions are defective in the State courts. Gentlemen have not pointed out an instance in which this writ can be violated with impunity. In every case that can be stated, the aggressor may be punished under existing laws; and that is the only mode in which you can enforce obedience to this writ, or to any law. You cannot prevent, absolutely, the commission of a crime; you can only punish the offender, and thereby discourage others from committing similar offences. You cannot prevent a man, while at liberty, from exercising his physical strength; and you can no more prevent him, by law, from violating the writ of habeas corpus, than you can prevent one man from striking another, or from seizing him, and carrying him away by force. All you can do, in either case, is to declare the punishment that shall be inflicted on such offenders.

The gentleman from Vermont (Mr. Elliot) has told us he has not discovered a tittle of evidence to show that the persons have committed treason, and that their crime, at most, can only be misprision of treason. Although we are given to understand that that gentleman is a professional character, I must beg leave to differ with him on this subject. If treason has been committed by the author of this conspiracy, those persons, if guilty of any crime, must be guilty of treason, and not of misprision of treason only. They aided and abetted in carrying into effect the project. They carried and delivered a letter, knowing its contents, from the principal conspirator to General Wilkinson, for the purpose of engaging him to join in this undertaking. They used their influence to corrupt him. These must be considered overt acts, giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the nation, and will make them principals in the treason, if such a crime has been committed; for, in this crime, there can be no accessories—all who are concerned are principals. Misprision of treason is a distinct and separate offence. It is merely the neglect or omission to make known to the proper authority the treason that has come to the knowledge of the party. It supposes that no act has been done by the party charged; that he has given no aid or assistance whatever to the enemies of the country, but has merely acted wrong, mistaken his duty (which is the meaning of the term) in not discovering, in due time, the acts of treason that have come to his knowledge, and is, on that account, guilty of high misdemeanor. It was not, however, my wish, or intention to give any opinion on the merits of this case. I am willing to leave it to the decision of the constitutional tribunals. But, gentlemen seem as if they were determined to discuss the guilt or innocence both of General Wilkinson and the prisoners. This I consider altogether improper, as it might give an undue bias to the public mind on this subject. For this reason also, sir, I am opposed to referring the resolution to a select committee.

Mr. Holland.—It is said by gentlemen, that, by the conduct of General Wilkinson in sending Bollman and others from Orleans to this city, there is a flagrant violation of the constitution, and a crime committed that should be punished as a felony, and the purpose of making an offence of this kind a felony is the object of the present motion. That these persons may have been deprived of certain rights secured by the constitution is a possible and probable case; for every illegal deprivation of right secured by law under the constitution, may be said with equal propriety to be a violation of the constitution. But, sir, so far as respects the habeas corpus, the suspension of it applies to the Legislature, and not to persons. The constitution says it shall not be suspended but in case of rebellion, or when the public safety requires it. This prohibition manifestly applies to the Legislature, and not to persons in their individual capacity. If, therefore, the Legislature suspend the habeas corpus when there is no rebellion, or when the public safety does not require it, they would be guilty of a violation of it. But how has General Wilkinson violated it? He has no power to issue or detain the writ. The issuing of the writ of habeas corpus is the duty of your judges, and they have in all cases issued the writ. It was issued in the present case at Orleans; and issued at this place in behalf of these men. Your judges have at all times in this particular been ready to do their duty. And if so, where is the necessity of coercing them, as proposed, by fines and penalties? Sir, the necessity does not exist. If General Wilkinson has disobeyed this mandatory writ, he stands in contempt, and your judicial courts have already power to punish contempts. If he has violated any law, he is liable to be punished. If he has deprived any persons of their rights secured by the constitution or by the law, he has done it upon his own responsibility. The laws are ample, and will give redress for every injury. Let these persons bring their actions, and if it should appear that they are innocent, and that the General has wantonly deprived them of their rights, an honest jury will give exemplary damages; but if on trial it should appear that they were guilty persons, and that the public safety required their being transmitted to this place, they will not, they ought not, recover a single cent.