[ [75] After Gerry spoke, according to Yates, "Mr. Madison was of opinion at present, to fix the standard of representation, and let the detail be the business of a sub-committee."—Secret Proceedings, p. 116.
On the question,—Mass: Con: N. Y. Pen: Maryd Virga N. C. S. C. & Geo: were in the affirmative: N. J. & Del: in the negative.
Mr Sherman moved that a question be taken whether each State shall have one vote in the 2d branch. Every thing he said depended on this. The smaller States would never agree to the plan on any other principle than an equality of suffrage in this branch. Mr Elsworth[76] seconded the motion.
[ [76] "Mr Elsworth is a Judge of the Supreme Court in Connecticut;—he is Gentleman of a clear, deep, and copius understanding; eloquent, and connected in public debate; and always attentive to his duty. He is very happy in a reply, and choice in selecting such parts of his adversary's arguments as he finds make the strongest impressions,—in order to take off the force of them, so as to admit the power of his own. Mr Elsworth is about 37 years of age, a Man much respected for his integrity, and venerated for his abilities."—Pierce's Notes, Am. Hist. Rev., iii., 326.
On the question for allowing each State one vote in the 2d branch,
Massts no. Cont ay. N. Y. ay. N. J. ay. Pa no. Del. ay. Md ay. Va no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
Mr Wilson & Mr Hamilton moved that the right of suffrage in the 2d branch ought to be according to the same rule as in the 1st branch. On this question for making the ratio of representation the same in the 2d as in the 1st branch it passed in the affirmative;
Massts ay. Cont no. N. Y. no. N. J. no. Pa ay. Del. no. Md no. Va ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
Resol: 11, for guarantying Republican Govt & territory to each State, being considered—the words "or partition," were, on motion of Mr Madison added, after the words "voluntary junction;"
Mas. N. Y. P. Va N. C. S. C. G. ay. Con: N. J. Del: Md no.