Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir, I have.

Mr. Jenner. On how many occasions?

Mr. Oswald. On one other occasion, sir.

Mr. Jenner. When?

Mr. Oswald. This would be approximately a Sunday afternoon in the middle of December 1963.

Mr. Jenner. That would be approximately a week after you made this entry?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir. In the presence of Mr. Jim H. Martin, and Mr. John Thorne. We traveled from Mr. Martin's home to the Paines' house in Irving to pick up Marina's and Lee's clothes that were still there.

Mr. Jenner. Still at the Paines' home?

Mr. Oswald. Still at the Paines' home. I saw Mr. and Mrs. Paine again on that day—I mean at that time. That was my second and only time I have ever seen them. Mr. and Mrs. Paine helped gather up the belongings of Marina and the children and Lee's personal belongings that were still there.

Mr. Jenner. To make it clear, Mr. Oswald, did Mr. Paine accompany you with Mr. Martin and Mr. Thorne to the Paine home, or did you meet Mr. Paine when you arrived there?