Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I believe he did. He quite frequently played around the house with friends there in the neighborhood.

Mr. Jenner. They were children, however, in the immediate neighborhood?

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that is correct.

Mr. Jenner. He is five years younger than you.

Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir. He would have been 13 in 1952, this period we are talking about.

Mr. Jenner. We are interested in this matter of the antipathy existing between you and John on the one hand and your mother on the other. Had that gone on for sometime? In order that I don't violate the same thing that I raise with you occasionally, let me take you back to the military school days, or to Bethlehem Orphanage. Did a measure of antipathy exist at that time?

Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I don't believe it did.

Mr. Jenner. When did it really arise in any marked degree?

Mr. Oswald. I believe after her divorce from Mr. Ekdahl.

Mr. Jenner. That was in June 1948.