Mr. Martin. I don't recall any conversation at all.
Mr. Rankin. Was anything said about the 10 percent at that time?
Mr. Martin. Well, she knew it was 10 percent.
Mr. Rankin. How do you know she knew that?
Mr. Martin. Well, we explained it to her.
Mr. Rankin. Who explained it?
Mr. Martin. I don't know whether I did or whether John Thorne did or Robert.
Mr. Rankin. Did she understand English enough to understand what you were talking about?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. How do you know that?