Mrs. Ford. There was a party or luncheon.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you go?
Mrs. Ford. No; I didn't go.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you hear any conversation during this period of 3 or 4 days about Oswald, anybody speculating about Oswald or discussing his experiences——
Mrs. Ford. No; I think——
Mr. Liebeler. In Russia?
Mrs. Ford. I think at that time everyone rather—George Bouhe said he was not going to help them any more, he was through, since Marina, he tried to help her very hard, and she did not hold her word about not going back to him. So he said since she went back, so now it is her problem.
Well, he is sort of that type of man, he is trying to help hard and if you are doing what he says otherwise he is not going to help, so that was it. So it was rather, sort of Marina and her husband were dropped at that time, nobody actually wanted to help, and I think what they heard about Lydia Dymitruk was saying that he couldn't help those people. I mean they were just sort of—he couldn't reach them. He was lying in hospital and things, we sort of gave it up.
Mr. Liebeler. Did Lydia make that remark at one of those parties or was that at a previous time?
Mrs. Ford. Oh, that was a previous time. As soon as she left to go back to her husband, George Bouhe even took the Russian dictionary back to him. He told her to give it back and he was just through with him.