Mrs. Ford. No.

Mr. Liebeler. You don't remember any of the discussion?

Mrs. Ford. I don't remember any of the discussion.

Mr. Liebeler. Is there anything other than what you told us that led you to believe that Oswald was unstable or a mental case?

Mrs. Ford. Nothing, except that I was thinking about him myself beating his wife. That would have been one reason. I don't think that any stable man would do that, especially she appeared to me very sick sort of a woman, not sick, but frail and fragile, I think any man who strikes a woman who is incapable of striking back, I would think would be unstable.

Mr. Liebeler. This Russian group that we have been discussing, Mr. Bouhe and these other people, do they see each other regularly? Is there sort of a Russian community in Dallas, would you say?

Mrs. Ford. Yes; there are about, I think, maybe four families in Fort Worth and maybe half a dozen in Dallas or more than that, but that mainly we see each other, and there is one Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia where that is where we actually meet each other.

Mr. Liebeler. In Dallas, you mean, or Fort Worth?

Mrs. Ford. Dallas. I am sorry. In Dallas, and we still observe our Eastern Orthodox religion during the holidays and sometimes like Christmas falls 13 days after the American Christmas so there is New Year's sometimes we celebrate those.

Mr. Liebeler. How well do you know the De Mohrenschildts?