Mr. Liebeler. In early December?
Mrs. Ford. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. What happened after that?
Mrs. Ford. Right after that, I think the next day Marina called me, and she said the reason she called me was because Mrs. Paine told her that I called, and let her know.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember specifically that Marina told you that she, Marina, had talked to Mrs. Paine?
Mrs. Ford. Well, this, I don't know. I think that is what she did. In fact, I think that Mrs. Paine told me she talked on the telephone with Marina but I couldn't be positive about it. I know she wrote letters, they wrote, I know Mrs. Paine wrote to Marina, and I couldn't exactly say she talked to her on the telephone or how it was, either Marina called Mrs. Paine or I don't know.
Mr. Liebeler. You say you know Marina wrote Mrs. Paine a letter? Did Marina tell you that she wrote Mrs. Paine during that period?
Mrs. Ford. I don't remember. I know later Mrs. Paine kept calling me and asked if I heard from Marina, because she kept writing to Marina and Marina didn't answer, so she wanted to know if I talked to her, that she was the reason she was calling me.
Mr. Liebeler. Did Mrs. Paine indicate to you after she called you trying to find out from Marina, did she indicate to you she had or had not heard from Marina since the assassination?
Mrs. Ford. I believe she told me she talked on the telephone with her right soon after, after I did.