Mrs. Ford. She didn't tell me the particulars but somehow Lee found out what was on her mind because he had beaten her again and told her only crazy people would consider doing a thing like that.

Mr. Liebeler. She said Lee had found out she had thought of committing suicide?

Mrs. Ford. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Did she ever tell you how he found out?

Mrs. Ford. No.

Mr. Liebeler. Did she indicate to you in any way that she had ever tried to do this?

Mrs. Ford. Well, she didn't tell me the particulars of it, I didn't want to, I mean I just didn't, ask her for all the details about it. But she was saying she was thinking about doing it at a certain time.

Mr. Liebeler. Well, I don't want to press you too hard about it but there is quite a difference between thinking about doing it and actually doing it.

The Chairman. She didn't hear it, she didn't hear it, did she?

Mr. Liebeler. That is right.