Mrs. Ford. How it was raised, I didn't get to discuss it with her about the particulars about it, except one time in the car, I don't remember how it came up and I was asking well how did that happen, and she was rather hesitating to talk about it, but she said, "Well, I locked him in the bathroom, and he was screaming or something, he was wanting to get out", and she tried to talk him out of it and he said, "if you are going to keep me in here just let me have a book to read", and I told her how did he get out later, she said, "Well, he rather cooled off and I talked him out of it."
Representative Ford. You say this conversation took place in the car?
Mrs. Ford. Yes; this conversation right now took place in the car but I don't know how it got started, I have forgotten.
Representative Ford. When you say it took place in the car, was it in the car going from Mr. McKenzie's to your home?
Mrs. Ford. That is right, to my home. She was staying at my place at this time.
Representative Ford. Did she talk rather freely about this Nixon——
Mrs. Ford. She didn't talk about it freely, I thought she was rather hesitant about going into particulars.
Representative Ford. Did she ever indicate why she had not discussed this incident with anybody, including the Commission?
Mrs. Ford. Well, right during that time, just before that, in the office, Mr. McKenzie, and I told her before that, "if you know anything that I think that would help either the Commission or the FBI I thought it my duty to tell them," and I told her that if she doesn't want me to say to anybody just don't talk to me about it, that is what I told her.
But because and maybe that is why she was hesitating to talk to me, Mr. McKenzie told it to her and had a written statement to her, too, if he feels there is anything he will have to say he will say it in connection with the President.