Mr. Ford. Mrs. Meller.

Mr. Liebeler. Had you heard of the Oswalds prior to that time?

Mr. Ford. Yes; I had.

Mr. Liebeler. How?

Mr. Ford. I first heard of them, I think, from either George Bouhe or maybe from Max Clark who lives in Fort Worth but I think it was George Bouhe. He had mentioned the name of Lee Oswald and briefly described his history, his story of his going to Russia, attempting to give up his American citizenship, and later returning from Russia with a Russian wife and child, and living in Fort Worth, and we were, my wife is Russian and we were interested in meeting her. George Bouhe, I think, at the time was attempting to help Lee Oswald find employment.

Mr. Liebeler. When you say "her" in that sentence you are referring to Mrs. Marina Oswald?

Mr. Ford. Yes; Marina Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler. Is that the reason why basically you went to the lunch at the Mellers to meet Lee and Marina Oswald?

Mr. Ford. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Was there any conversation with the Oswalds at that time?