Mr. Ford. When she came to visit us in our home?
Mr. Liebeler. Yes.
Mr. Ford. I talked to her about what she had talked to Marina, and I couldn't carry on much of a conversation with Marina myself because she didn't speak much English but I would ask my wife, and my wife would tell me what she had said.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember whether there was any discussion about Marina's testimony before this Commission, either before she went to Washington or after she came back?
Mr. Ford. No; not—my wife never told me before she came to Washington to testify before the Commission. After she came back, I did overhear some conversation between Marina, my wife, and Mr. William M. McKenzie regarding the testimony given to the Commission.
Mr. Liebeler. Can you tell us what that was to the best of your recollection?
Let me ask you this: Where did this occur?
Mr. Ford. I think it was in Mr. McKenzie's office, it may have been either in his office or my home but I think it was in his office, and I believe the FBI had been questioning her this afternoon, I am not sure of the date, and I came back later to pick up my wife and Marina and in my presence Mr. McKenzie asked my wife to ask Marina in Russian if she had told the Commission this Nixon story. I don't know the details of the story, but something regarding the threat to Mr. Nixon.
And I think Marina, again through my wife, told Mr. McKenzie that she had not mentioned this to the Commission. But that she had mentioned it to the FBI, and she had mentioned it, I believe to the FBI prior to the Commission hearing.
Mr. Liebeler. Who told you that?