Mr. Ford. Right.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you learn anything relating to the Walker affair as a result of conversations with your wife?

Mr. Ford. Well, I had read about it in the newspapers; I had read stories that Lee Oswald had told Marina that he had taken a shot at General Walker and my wife did tell me later on she asked Marina if this were true and I think Marina said this was true, that Lee Oswald had told Marina he was the one who had taken a shot at General Walker.

Mr. Liebeler. Is that the extent of your conversations about the Walker incident?

Mr. Ford. No; she mentioned something else that my wife told me about. That after Lee had taken a shot at General Walker, he had hidden the gun somewhere and went back the next day or a few days later and recovered the gun. And that Lee was reading the reports in the newspaper and made some statement, "Well, how stupid can the police be," something to this effect. In other words, expressing the idea that the police were unable to find out what happened in the Walker incident. And then also Marina had said at one time, I believe the day after the shooting of Walker or attempted shooting of Walker, George De Mohrenschildt had come into the house and made some statement to them regarding it. I can't remember the exact words but it was referring to it, Walker, somebody shooting at General Walker, and asking Lee how he could miss and she was surprised that De Mohrenschildt knew about it and Marina thought Lee had told George De Mohrenschildt about it.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you ever learn how George De Mohrenschildt had learned about it?

Mr. Ford. No; I imagine he was surprised that Lee had done the shooting and to him it would have been a good joke.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember anything else about the Walker incident that you and your wife may have talked about?

Mr. Ford. Yes; we have discussed it some after, I believe, Marina came to stay with us, and I expressed the doubt that Lee Oswald was the one who took a shot at Walker.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you have any basis for expressing that doubt?