The Chairman. Did you go to the public schools there?

Mr. Ford. I attended both parochial and public schools in Los Angeles and Glendale.

The Chairman. Then you went to the University of California at Los Angeles?

Mr. Ford. Right.

The Chairman. Where did you go after that. You were in the service, did you say?

Mr. Ford. I was in the service. After I got out of the service I went back to UCLA and finished my education and then went to work in the oil industry first in Bakersfield and in Los Angeles, Ventura, and then went to work for DeGollyer and McNaughton overseas.

The Chairman. I see.

Representative Ford. How old are you, Mr. Ford?

Mr. Ford. Forty-one.

Mr. Liebeler. Mr. Ford, were you at any time present in Mr. McKenzie's office, William McKenzie, when there was a discussion with Marina Oswald concerning guns and the gun that was used to or presumably used to attack Walker and the gun that was subsequently presumably used to attack the President?