Representative Ford. Why one fragmented and one did not.

Colonel Finck. Yes.

(Discussion off the record.)

The Chairman. Gentlemen, again thank you very much.

(Whereupon, at 3:45 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)


[Wednesday, March 18, 1964]
TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL R. PAINE AND RUTH HYDE PAINE

The President's Commission met at 9 a.m. on March 18, 1964, at 200 Maryland Avenue NE., Washington, D.C.

Present were Chief Justice Earl Warren, Chairman; Senator John Sherman Cooper, Representative Gerald R. Ford, John J. McCloy, and Allen W. Dulles, members.

Also present were J. Lee Rankin, general counsel; Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel, Albert E. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel; Dr. Alfred Goldberg, historian; and Charles Murray, observer.