Mr. Paine. I might have been; I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you know whether she actively participated in the program to bring the Russians to the United States?

Mr. Paine. Well, she participated insofar as going to the meetings. I don't believe she did most of the writing to the State Department and what-not to try to arrange clearances and itineraries and things like that, but she was at the meetings at which those things were discussed.

Mr. Liebeler. Did she ever discuss them with you in any detail?

Mr. Paine. We, I would often—I went to several of those meetings myself.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you know the names of any of the Russians who came to the United States in connection with this program?

Mr. Paine. I might recognize them if I saw them again, but right now the names have escaped me.

Mr. Liebeler. You say there were just three of them?

Mr. Paine. I think there were three; yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Are you a member of the American Civil Liberties Union?