Mr. Paine. I don't think so.

Mr. Liebeler. Or George Lakey?

Mr. Paine. For practical purposes; no. The names seem a little familiar but I can't place them.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any recollection of the connection in which it is familiar to you?

Mr. Paine. No.

Mr. Liebeler. Are you familiar with the Committee for Non-Violent Action?

Mr. Paine. Many of these things sound familiar. I don't—I really am saying no.

Mr. Liebeler. Are you a member or have you ever attended any meetings of the John Birch Society?

Mr. Paine. I am not a member. I have been to one or, I guess chiefly one meeting of theirs.

Mr. Liebeler. Where was that?