Mr. Paine. No; I never had—never knew what the name of any group he might be associated with.
Now, I suppose it was Trotsky. Trotskyite was a different distinct group at that time. They probably wouldn't be mentioning their own group. They would be mentioning their opponent's group.
Mr. Liebeler. Subsequent to your attendance at the meetings of these groups at the time you have spoken of did you ever attend any other meetings of similar groups either in New York or any other place?
Mr. Paine. I can't remember anything of a similar nature.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you know of your father ever using any aliases?
Mr. Paine. No; I don't.
Mr. Liebeler. You are not familiar with the name Thomas L. Brown or Lyman Pierce?
Mr. Paine. No.
Mr. Liebeler. When was the——
Mr. Paine. I was aware that my father didn't talk readily about his affairs. When we met we would talk at great length and we always do talk. There is an amazing similarity in our natures. I have almost thought there was one person trying to live in two bodies.