Mr. Dulles. Berry Street in Dallas.

Mr. Liebeler. Berry Street or would it be Neely Street?

Mr. Paine. Neely Street. So this was the first time I saw them. I had to go over, he didn't drive a car and I had to go over, and pick him up in my car and bring him back to the house. So I went over to Neely Street and saw them. Marina took about half an hour to pack all the things for Junie. Meanwhile I was talking to Lee at their house there.

Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us about that conversation?

Mr. Paine. I asked him what he was doing, his job, and he showed me a picture on the wall, which was a piece of newspaper, I think—that is beside the point. I asked him about Russia, what he liked about——

Mr. Dulles. Could we get that picture?

Mr. Paine. I think it was beside the point. It was a piece of newspaper showing a fashion ad, I think. I think his job was——

Mr. Dulles. Nothing to do with politics at all, to do with his job. I see.

Mr. Paine. I asked him what he thought. I wanted to know why he had gone to Russia and why he had then come back. He had told me he had become a Marxist in this country without ever having met a Communist, by reading books and then he got to Russia, and——

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you why he went to Russia?