Mr. Paine. No; I don't remember. He said something very similar to, "I disagree with what had just been said," and I do remember that it contained both some corroboration of his points of view. There had been some kind of an anti-Semitic statement and criticism of the Pope.
Mr. Liebeler. Oswald seemed to make a convincing argument and seemed to make sense?
Mr. Paine. That was good speaking. It was out of keeping with the mood of the meeting and nobody followed it up in a similar manner but I think it was accepted as—it made sense; yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Did anybody else say anything in response to Oswald's remarks?
Mr. Paine. I think not.
Mr. Liebeler. What happened then later on in the meeting?
Mr. Paine. Later on in the meeting, when the meeting broke up, people clustered into discussion groups, and Frank, I told Frank, who was a colleague at work, Frank Krystinik, about Lee and Marina, and so of course he immediately came to defend free enterprise and what not in opposition to this fellow I told him about, and I left the discussion at that point, thinking I knew the kind of discussion it would be.
It was a discussion between three people, a more elderly man whom I probably thought was a member of the ACLU, and Frank and Lee.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you hear any part of the discussion?
Mr. Paine. I didn't hear any part of the discussion.