Senator Cooper. Might I ask a question at this time? Earlier you talked about your, I think your, first meeting with Oswald and your conversation with him?

Mr. Paine. Yes.

Senator Cooper. You said, you talked about, the fact that subsequently your wife was bothered by his attitude?

Mr. Paine. She was bothered by——

Senator Cooper. I am not going into that.

Now, you have talked about this conversation with Mr. Krystinik?

Mr. Paine. Krystinik.

Senator Cooper. In which they reached some point in which further discussion was not, if not impossible, was at least difficult between them?

From these experiences you had was there a situation, that after some arguments or discussion of economic or political issues, he would reach a point in which he relied upon certain fixed positions that he held about which he would not admit of any further discussion or argument?

Mr. Paine. That is correct. He would just present his dogmatic view and then one was at loss to find any way to get off that impasse.