Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, please. Before we get to what you wondered about, exhaust your recollection as to what he said, what others might have said on the subjects in his presence about which he talked.

Mrs. Paine. That is all I can think of.

Mr. Jenner. You mentioned, also, Mrs. Paine, that there was discussed that evening the subject of his return to America.

Mrs. Paine. Obviously, yes.

Mr. Jenner. Why he returned, was that subject discussed?

Mrs. Paine. Not very much, no. I can't recall any specifics relating to that.

Mr. Jenner. All you can recall, I take it, at the moment, is that there was an allusion to the subject?

Mrs. Paine. Well, he was clearly here, yes. He had come back, and—well, I have to put it in terms of what I guess or what I feel was his reaction. I can't give you a specific recall.

Mr. Jenner. We have no objection to your doing that. We would like to have you first state all you can recall as to what specifically happened in this instance. How did Mr. Oswald treat or regard—what relationship did you gather existed between Marina and her husband, a cordial one as of that occasion, separating from what you learned afterward, but just this initial instance. What impression did you have?

Mrs. Paine. Almost none. There was very little contact between them during the evening. He spoke English to those that were asking them questions. She was either in the bedroom by herself trying to get the little baby to go to sleep, or in the kitchen speaking Russian to the De Mohrenschildts. I listened more than I spoke in that situation.