Mrs. Paine. Well, she said to me in November that she has changed from never listening to an English conversation to giving it some of her attention because she is able to pick up some words. You know how if you don't understand anything there is no point even——

Mr. Dulles. I personally got the impression when she was here that she understood a good deal of English.

Mrs. Paine. I believe she does, yes.

Mr. Dulles. But this time she did not have that facility at all?

Mrs. Paine. No.

Mr. Jenner. Did you not think it was curious that her husband was adverse to her acquiring some facility with the English language?

Mrs. Paine. I thought it was distinctly thoughtless on his part, even cruel.

Mr. Jenner. Did you discuss it with her to the extent that you could in your limited command of Russian?

Mrs. Paine. I think the easiest thing was to agree with what she was saying about it, agree with what she was saying.

Mr. Jenner. Which was what?