Mrs. Paine. I don't recall specifically. I did feel that it wasn't a particularly happy occasion. I don't recall it with lightness.
Mr. Jenner. Was he out of work at that time or not?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; he was out of work. I knew at that time he was out of work. Whether I found out that morning or the previous time I had seen her I don't recall. I only recall when she said he was out of work she also said he had been out of work for a week or a few days before he told her.
Mr. Jenner. I would like to have you draw on your recollection as closely as you can. Did you learn of his being out of work from him or from Marina?
Mrs. Paine. From her.
Mr. Jenner. What did she say on that subject as to whether he was discharged or whether he had left his employment, or did she say anything in that area?
Mrs. Paine. I judged he had been discharged.
Mr. Jenner. Give me your best recollection of what she said.
Mrs. Paine. Do you want something else?
Mr. Jenner. Give me your best recollection of what she said, Mrs. Paine.