Mrs. Paine. I think he was carrying all he could to lighten her burden. In other words, if and when she followed, he was carrying all he could.

Mr. Jenner. Representative Ford is interested in this, Mrs. Paine——

Mr. Dulles. I am puzzled, too.

Mr. Jenner. When you arrived at the Oswald apartment that morning, Lee Oswald had duffelbags packed and some——

Mrs. Paine. Suitcases.

Mr. Jenner. Suitcases. He had in those suitcases and in the duffelbag some of the apparel for Mrs.—Marina?

Mrs. Paine. Of course, I did not see it. I have to guess what was in it.

Mr. Jenner. But, from your knowledge of the household and afterwards, this was at least your impression?

Mrs. Paine. That they must have included some of her things.

Mr. Jenner. Yes. Which, in turn, might lead to the inference that, therefore, they contemplated at that moment from what he was taking that Marina was ultimately to join him in New Orleans.