Mrs. Paine. I am brief in my recollection, a normal rectangular shape here.

Mr. Jenner. Width, that is the side, you mean?

Mrs. Paine. That is the whole thing. That is looking at the top. How high it is.

Mr. Jenner. No; wide.

Mrs. Paine. I am filling it out. This would be the width then from here to here, possibly more.

Mr. Jenner. Fourteen inches?

Mrs. Paine. I am not sure I am recalling one or two at the same time. I have to be under oath, and giving you details on things I don't recall that well.

Mr. Jenner. All we are seeking is your best recollection.

Mrs. Paine. All right, that is my best recollection.

Mr. Jenner. Twenty-one and a half times fourteen, and how high was it?