Mrs. Paine. No.
Mr. Jenner. Or any covering, any package, that looked as though it might have a weapon, pistol, or firearm?
Mrs. Paine. No.
Mr. Jenner. Up to this moment, Mrs. Paine, had there been any discussion with Marina or with Lee Harvey Oswald in connection with his life in Russia with the use of a firearm or his right to use one in Russia?
Mrs. Paine. I never heard him mention anything of this sort. Michael told me later he mentioned it to Michael.
Mr. McCloy. State that, please.
Mrs. Paine. Michael told me later that Lee had complained in Michael's hearing that they did not permit a private individual to have a gun, but I didn't hear that when it was said. So there was no discussion at any time that mentioned guns, nothing brought up by Marina or Lee.
Mr. Jenner. I will broaden my question. Up to—now up to, and not including, up to November 22, 1963, had there ever been any discussion between you and Lee Harvey Oswald or between you and Marina or any discussion in the presence of either of them by anybody, including yourself, about the use of a firearm by Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. Yes. Marina told me that he had been hunting in the Soviet Union.
Mr. Jenner. Now, please, to the best of your recollection when did that occur?