Mr. Jenner. Did you read that "It would be very useful for him to know how to drive but it is hard to find time for this when he works every day."

Just to be certain of this, Mrs. Paine, this was a remark made to you by Lee Harvey Oswald when you brought Marina from Irving, Tex., to New Orleans, and——

Mrs. Paine. The second week in May.

Mr. Jenner. The second week in May of 1963. And then, according to the remark made to you by Lee Harvey Oswald that his uncle had permitted him to drive his uncle's car on the street in New Orleans?

Mrs. Paine. Yes; and he was proud of this.

Mr. Jenner. Did he ask at that time or any time while you were in New Orleans in the spring to drive your car?

Mrs. Paine. No.

Mr. Jenner. Was there any discussion at all during—did you have the feeling that he would like to drive the car?

Mrs. Paine. There was no discussion of it.

Mr. Jenner. Did he demonstrate to you that he could drive?