Mrs. Paine. No.

Representative Boggs. Are you, I don't know quite how to state this question, are you a practicing Quaker?

Mrs. Paine. I am. I am also a pacifist.

Representative Boggs. You are a pacifist?

Mrs. Paine. Yes.

Representative Boggs. You are not a Marxist?

Mrs. Paine. No; they don't go together, in fact. You can't believe violent overthrow and be a pacifist.

Mr. Dulles. Did you know Norman Thomas quite well?

Mrs. Paine. When I was 8 I went to a rally of Norman Thomas in New York City. That was my only contact.

Representative Boggs. Is your feeling towards Marina, shall I say in the Quaker spirit of friendship and hospitality, was that the main objective, plus the intellectual?