Mr. Specter. Would you describe, in a general way, what the President and Mrs. Kennedy did upon arrival in Dallas?

Mr. Hill. They debarked the rear ramp of the aircraft first, followed by Governor and Mrs. Connally, various Congressmen and Senators. And Special Agent in Charge Kellerman and myself went down the ramp. There was a small reception committee at the foot of the ramp, and somebody gave Mrs. Kennedy some red roses, I recall. I walked immediately to the followup car and placed my topcoat, which is a raincoat, and small envelope containing some information concerning the Dallas stop in the followup car, returning to where the President and Mrs. Kennedy were at that time greeting a crippled lady in a wheelchair.

Mr. Specter. What do you estimate the size of the crowd to have been at Dallas that morning?

Mr. Hill. At the airport?

Mr. Specter. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hill. It is rather difficult to say. They were behind a chain-link fence, not on the airport ramp itself, and they were jammed up against the fence holding placards, and many young people in the crowd. I would say there were probably 2,000 people there.

Mr. Specter. At approximately what time did the motorcade depart from Love Field to Dallas?

Mr. Hill. Approximately 11:55.

Mr. Specter. Do you know approximately how many automobiles there were in the motorcade?

Mr. Hill. No, sir; I do not.