Mr. Hill. No, sir; I cannot.
Mr. Specter. What was the condition of the crowd along the streets, if any, along Elm Street, in front of the Texas School Book Depository Building?
Mr. Hill. On the left-hand side of the street, which is the side I was on, the crowd was very thin. And it was a general park area. There were people scattered throughout the entire park.
Mr. Specter. Now, what is your best estimate of the speed of the President's automobile as it turned left off of Houston onto Elm Street?
Mr. Hill. We were running still 12 to 15 miles per hour, but in the curve I believe we slowed down maybe to 10, maybe to 9.
Mr. Specter. How far back of the President's automobile was the Presidential followup car when the President's followup car had just straightened out on Elm Street?
Mr. Hill. Approximately 5 feet.
Mr. Specter. Now, as the motorcade proceeded at that point, tell us what happened.
Mr. Hill. Well, as we came out of the curve, and began to straighten up, I was viewing the area which looked to be a park. There were people scattered throughout the entire park. And I heard a noise from my right rear, which to me seemed to be a firecracker. I immediately looked to my right, and, in so doing, my eyes had to cross the Presidential limousine and I saw President Kennedy grab at himself and lurch forward and to the left.
Mr. Specter. Why don't you just proceed, in narrative form, to tell us?