Mr. Hill. I simply just pushed and she moved—somewhat voluntarily—right back into the same seat she was in. The President—when she had attempted to get out onto the trunk of the car, his body apparently did not move too much, because when she got back into the car he was at that time, when I got on top of the car, face up in her lap.

Mr. Specter. And that was after she was back in the rear seat?

Mr. Hill. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter. And where were the President's legs at that time?

Mr. Hill. Inside the car.

Mr. Specter. Now, what, if anything, did you observe as to the condition of Governor Connally at that time?

Mr. Hill. After going under this underpass, I looked forward to the jump seats, where Mrs. Connally and Governor Connally were sitting. Mrs. Connally had been leaning over her husband. And I had no idea that he had been shot. And when she leaned back at one time, I noticed that his coat was unbuttoned, and that the lower portion of his abdomen was completely covered with blood.

Mr. Specter. When was it that you first observed that?

Mr. Hill. Just after going under the underpass.

Mr. Specter. Were you able to observe anything which was occurring on the overpass as the President's motorcade moved toward the overpass?