Mr. Youngblood. All right, sir.

This plane, Air Force 2, had on board the Vice President and Mrs. Johnson and other officials. And we disembarked from the plane and were met by a welcoming committee composed of local dignitaries. And then we moved from that area where we disembarked over to the area of the ramp, which would be pushed out when Air Force 1, the President's plane, arrived. And when his plane did arrive, which was just a few minutes after ours, roughly 10 minutes, we went out to the foot of the ramp and Vice President Johnson and Mrs. Johnson headed the reception committee to greet the people who came off of Air Force 1.

Mr. Specter. Approximately how long did the activities in greeting the crowd and the general reception last at Love Field on that morning?

Mr. Youngblood. Do you mean from the time we arrived on Air Force 2 until we left?

Mr. Specter. Yes.

Mr. Youngblood. I think it was about 15 minutes.

Mr. Specter. Now, in what position in the motorcade was Vice President Johnson's automobile?

Mr. Youngblood. We were following the Presidential followup car, and the motorcade up to our point—there was a lead car, the President's car, the Presidential followup car, and then our car.

Mr. Specter. Was there, to your knowledge, in advance of the lead car a car known as the pilot car?

Mr. Youngblood. Yes, sir; in all probability. This is a normal police arrangement.