Mr. Specter. And was one camera loaded at the time you rounded the corner of Main and Houston?
Mr. Jackson. Yes, sir; and one was empty.
Mr. Specter. Was it from the camera which was empty that you had taken the roll of film which you have just described?
Mr. Jackson. Yes, sir.
Mr. Specter. All right. Will you now proceed to tell us what happened as you rounded the corner of Main and Houston, please?
Mr. Jackson. Well, as our reporter chased the film out into the street, we all looked back at him and were laughing, and it was approximately that time that we heard the first shot, and we had already rounded the corner, of course, when we heard the first shot. We were approximately almost half a block on Houston Street.
Mr. Specter. Will you identify for me on Commission Exhibit 347, precisely as possible, where your automobile was at the time you heard the first shot?
Mr. Jackson. Approximately right here, I would say the midpoint of this building. Approximately where we heard the first report.
Mr. Specter. Now, will you mark in a black "X" on 347 the spot where your car was at the time you heard the first shot?
Mr. Jackson. Right here approximately. And as we heard the first shot, I believe it was Tom Dillard from Dallas News who made some remark as to that sounding like a firecracker, and it could have been somebody else who said that. But someone else did speak up and make that comment and before he actually finished the sentence we heard the other two shots. Then we realized or we thought that it was gunfire, and then we could not at that point see the President's car. We were still moving slowly, and after the third shot the second two shots seemed much closer together than the first shot, than they were to the first shot. Then after the last shot, I guess all of us were just looking all around and I just looked straight up ahead of me which would have been looking at the School Book Depository and I noticed two Negro men in a window straining to see directly above them, and my eyes followed right on up to the window above them and I saw the rifle or what looked like a rifle approximately half of the weapon, I guess I saw, and just as I looked at it, it was drawn fairly slowly back into the building, and I saw no one in the window with it.