Mr. Martin. Richardson is a suburb of Dallas. This gentleman called, what was his name?
Mr. Leech. I can't remember it.
Mr. Redlich. Would it refresh your recollection if I mentioned the name Olds?
Mr. Martin. Yes, Greg Olds. He called on the phone and wanted to see Marina Oswald, wanted to make sure she was being properly represented, that she knew her rights, and so on and so forth.
John Thorne talked to him, and told him that he represented Marina Oswald, and that he was definitely sure that all her rights were being observed.
Then I think there was another phone call from them still wanting to see Marina Oswald, and I talked to Marina and she said well, she would talk to him. So they arranged a meeting with a third party, I can't remember his name, who was a minister of some kind, and then Marina changed her mind and said no, she didn't want to go at all, she didn't want to talk to any of them. So then they wrote the letter. They wrote a letter to her in Russian and sent one to me in English, one to John Thorne in English, and I believe one to the Secret Service and one to the FBI.
Mr. Leech. Do you want to mention about their press releases at this time?
Mr. Martin. There were a number of press releases at that time also that she was being held incognito and not able to——
Mr. Redlich. You mean incognito or incommunicado?
Mr. Martin. Incommunicado.