Mr. Rowland. Yes.

Representative Ford. In other words, did you get a full view of his face and his chest and the front of him?

Mr. Rowland. He appeared to me as though he were looking out the window and watching the crowd in particular.

Representative Ford. Excuse me, go ahead.

Mr. Rowland. That is all right.

Representative Ford. Was he looking toward the corner of Houston and Main?

Mr. Rowland. No; I would say he was looking in the area or the general vicinity of where I was.

Representative Ford. And you were on the sidewalk on Houston in front of the building that you have indicated?

Mr. Rowland. Yes. Now, I can't—here again I wasn't close enough to see his eyes but from the position of his head he was looking in that general area. It could have been that maybe he was—his eyes were a little bit off perspective and he was watching that corner, I don't know.

Representative Ford. In what position did you say his hands were on the rifle?