Mr. Specter. Following that did you and she have any additional conversation about this man in the window?

Mr. Rowland. We talked about it momentarily, just for a few seconds that it was of most likelihood a security man, had a very good vantage point where he could watch the crowds, talked about the rifle, it looked like a very high-powered rifle.

Mr. Specter. Did you mention that to your wife?

Mr. Rowland. Yes; I did.

Mr. Specter. Have you described as fully as you can everything you discussed with your wife at that juncture?

Mr. Rowland. I think so.

Representative Ford. Was there anybody else standing close to you as you had this conversation with your wife?

Mr. Rowland. There was a policeman about as far as me to the flag.

Representative Ford. That is about how many feet, would you say?

Mr. Rowland. Twelve, thirteen feet.