Mr. Specter. When, if at all, did you first report what you had observed in the Texas School Book Depository Building about the man with the rifle to anyone in an official position?
Mr. Rowland. That was approximately 15 minutes after the third report that I went to an officer, he was a plainclothesman who was there combing the area, close to position "C," looking for footprints and such as this, some lady said someone jumped off one of the colonnades and started running, there was an officer looking in this area for footprints and such as this.
Mr. Specter. Was that lady ever identified to you?
Mr. Rowland. No; I do not remember his name. He introduced himself and showed me his ID.
Mr. Specter. I mean the lady you talked about.
Mr. Rowland. No; I don't.
Mr. Specter. Now as to the officer to whom you made a report, was he a State, City or Federal official, if you know?
Mr. Rowland. It was a Dallas detective.
Mr. Specter. And did you give him a statement or what procedure did he follow?
Mr. Rowland. It happened such as this: He was looking in this area for footprints or any visible marks. I started looking around also. I found a fountain pen that someone had probably dropped during the confusion or fell out of their pocket when they fell on the ground or such. I picked it up and handed it to him. I had on gloves, I wasn't to mess up the fingerprints because it very possibly could have fallen out of the pocket of the man who supposedly had jumped down.