Representative Ford. When you first discussed it with her, what was her attitude?
Mr. Martin. Well, she said she thought he was crazy.
Representative Ford. But did she indicate when you first discussed the question of guilt or not being guilty, what was her attitude?
Mr. Martin. She thought he was guilty.
Representative Ford. The first time you discussed the matter?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Representative Ford. Did she indicate why?
Mr. Martin. No. I asked her why, and she said it was just a feeling.
Representative Ford. At that point had she——
Mr. Martin. A woman's feeling.