Does it refresh your memory any?
Mr. Frazier. I remember one weekend, I say, right now I can't recall because just to be frank with you I couldn't tell you roughly; I say I might have at that time but I say it slipped my mind but the thing is I do know he rode home with me every weekend up to that but one.
Mr. Ball. And why did—did he tell you why he wasn't going to ride home that weekend?
Mr. Frazier. Yes, he did. He said he was working on his driving license and he was going to go take a driving test.
Mr. Ball. Did you ever ask him afterward if he had taken his driver's test?
Mr. Frazier. No, sir; I never did. I assumed that he had taken it and passed it what part of the test he was taking.
Most men do, I say, they usually work at it, study at it good enough so they don't flunk out.
Representative Ford. Do you have to get a learner's permit in Texas before you can get a driver's permit?
Mr. Frazier. No, sir; I say, you don't. Just two steps to it. I say, first no matter what age you are; say, when you have to be at least 14 is about the youngest you can get it in Texas and then you have to take a DE, Driver's Education, if you are going to school but otherwise, the age is 16 and you just go around to the driving license bureau there, they have an office in most any town of any size in Texas, and you just go in and see the driving license man and just tell him that you plan to take your driving test and you would like to have the auto manual, and the manual covers any laws and so forth in the State of Texas, and you can either study for your operator's or your commercial and you pick out which one you want, and you study up for it and then he is there, he tells you what days he is in his office, and so he goes there a certain time and he gives you several sheets of paper, a quiz and you answer them questions, and if you—you have to make a grade of 70 on it to pass and if you make a grade of 70 or above, well, I say, in another week or two you go down there and you say like for instance if you are going to want a driver's license for a car——
Representative Ford. Did Lee ever ask you or did Lee ever tell you whether he had ever actually applied for a driver's license?