Mr. Ball. You figured it was who?

Mr. Frazier. I figured it was somebody shooting at President Kennedy because people were running and hollering so I just stood still. I have always been taught when something like that happened or anywhere as far as that it is always best to stand still because if you run that makes you look guilty sure enough.

Mr. Ball. Now, then, did you have any impression at that time as to the direction from which the sound came?

Mr. Frazier. Well, to be frank with you I thought it come from down there, you know, where that underpass is. There is a series, quite a few number, of them railroad tracks running together and from where I was standing it sounded like it was coming from down the railroad tracks there.

Mr. Ball. Were you able to see the President, could you still see the President's car when you heard the first sound?

Mr. Frazier. No, sir; I couldn't. From there, you know, people were standing out there on the curb, you see, and you know it drops, you know the ground drops, off there as you go down toward that underpass and I couldn't see any of it because people were standing up there in my way, but however, when he did turn that corner there, there wasn't anybody standing there in the street and you could see good there, but after you got on past down there you couldn't see anything.

Mr. Ball. You didn't see the President's car at the time you heard the sound?

Mr. Frazier. No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Ball. But you stood right there, did you?

Mr. Frazier. Right. Stood right where I was.