Mr. Ball. Well, you indicated that everything that would be beyond this line, the bin lines, would be clear on the first floor.
Mr. Frazier. Right, beyond here.
Mr. Ball. Did you ever go into that area where it was clear before you went downstairs?
From the time you came back into the room, did you go down into this area which was clear before you went downstairs?
Mr. Frazier. No, sir; I didn't go in here. I was right over right close to Mr. Shelley's office right around here and sit around and talked with some guys around there.
Mr. Ball. You are indicating around Mr. Shelley's office?
Mr. Frazier. Yes, sir; pretty close right there, like I say more or less right out over in here we have a——
Mr. Ball. Put a mark there.
Mr. Frazier. Let's see——
Mr. Ball. Put a circle to show the general area where you and the rest of them stood around and talked.