Mr. Frazier. Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.

Mr. Ball. But you said a moment ago you weren't sure whether the package was longer or shorter.

Mr. Frazier. And his hands because I couldn't see that about the package.

Mr. Ball. By that, do you mean that you don't know whether the package extended beyond his hands?

Mr. Frazier. This way?

Mr. Ball. No; lengthwise, toward his feet.

Mr. Frazier. No; now I don't mean that.

Mr. Ball. What do you mean?

Mr. Frazier. What I was talking about, I said I didn't know where it extended. It could have or couldn't have, out this way, widthwise not lengthwise.

Mr. Ball. In other words, you say it could have been wider than your original estimate?