Mr. Frazier. Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much attention——
Mr. Ball. Turn around.
Mr. Frazier. I didn't pay much attention, but when I did, I say, he had this part down here, like the bottom would be short he had cupped in his hand like that and, say, like walking from the back if you had a big arm jacket there you wouldn't tell much from a package back there, the physical features. If you could see it from the front like when you walk and meet somebody you could tell about the package, but walking from behind you couldn't tell much about the package whatsoever about the width. But he didn't carry it from the back. If this package were shorter he would have it cupped in his hands.
The Chairman. Could he have had the top of it behind his shoulder, or are you sure it was cupped under his shoulder there?
Mr. Frazier. Yes; because the way it looked, you know, like I say, he had it cupped in his hand.
The Chairman. I beg your pardon?
Mr. Frazier. I said from where I noticed he had it cupped in his hands. And I don't see how you could have it anywhere other than under your armpit because if you had it cupped in your hand it would stick over it.
Mr. Ball. Could he have carried it this way?
Mr. Frazier. No, sir. Never in front here. Like that. Now, that is what I was talking to you about. No, I say he couldn't because if he had you would have seen the package sticking up like that.
From what I seen walking behind he had it under his arm and you couldn't tell that he had a package from the back.