Mr. Martin. That is true.

Mr. Dulles. Do we have that translation as well as the copy of the original?

Mr. Redlich. Yes, Mr. Chairman, we have the original in Russian and then it was translated by Mr. Gopadze, of the Secret Service.

Mr. Martin. Actually our translation is very poor. He was not able to translate properly into English a lot of the phrases.

Mr. Dulles. Who is "he," Illa? Isn't that Ilya, by the way?

Mr. Martin. I am not sure.

Mr. Dulles. That is generally the Russian, I don't know.

Mr. Rankin. That is right.

Mr. Martin. It might be.

Mr. Dulles. Yes.