Mr. Ball. When you reached your end of the run in northeast Dallas then you set your transfers for 1 o'clock, did you?

Mr. McWatters. That is right, when I was coming back in.

Mr. Ball. And when you gave this transfer near Poydras and Elm——

Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball. Did you pull out a transfer that had already been set for 1 o'clock time?

Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir. In other words, I just reached up on my cutter and just tore off one which is already punched.

Mr. Ball. Then did you punch it again or was it already punched?

Mr. McWatters. It was already punched.

Mr. Ball. And you had punched it at the end of the line?

Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir.