Mr. Ball. And it turns over to Ewing, that would be east on Ewing?
Mr. McWatters. Yes; that would be east.
Mr. Ball. At or about what point?
Mr. McWatters. Well, in other words, that is the Marsalis Zoo is where it is, after you cross the expressway there, it is the first street, Opera is the name of that and it goes right down to Ewing.
Mr. Ball. Then at the corner of 11th, at the intersection of 11th and Marsalis both buses travel the same route?
Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir; they sure do. Both buses travel the same route to Marsalis and the Ramona bus on that part travel the same route.
Mr. Ball. Probably on the same route.
Now, I show you this document which is the bus schedule of Marsalis-Ramona-Elwood-Munger, and it shows you leave St. Paul at 12:36 and you arrive at Lamar 12:40.
The bus transfers are punched you told me for 1 o'clock. We have a transfer here that you have seen or we will show you in a few minutes as soon as it gets here, which has a punch mark of 1 o'clock. You told Senator Cooper that you usually punched within 15 minutes of the time you reached the transfer points?
Mr. McWatters. Yes.