Mr. Ball. Mr. McWatters, on this transfer is the name of Shopper's Transfer.
Does that have any significance?
Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir; that is what I was telling him. In other words, if they want a Shoppers; well I put my punch mark in that Shoppers there, which they cannot use it for a transfer, in other words, any more than other than—all the stores, most of them in downtown Dallas, if you buy as much as a dollar's worth between the period of ten and four in the afternoon they give you a little white slip which entitled you to ride what is called the Shopper's Pass. It rides you back, but in other words you have to, a passenger has to, ask for it in other words.
When they say a Shopper, you take a punch and punch your punch mark where it says Shoppers, but they are not supposed to use the transfer then to transfer to another bus. They are supposed, in other words, where it is punched in the store, get it exchanged for their return fare.
Mr. Ball. In other words, all your transfers have on them printed the word "Shopper's Transfer"?
Mr. McWatters. Yes, sir; they do.
Mr. Ball. And in order to make it a Shopper's Transfer so that the transfer can be exchanged for a merchandise coupon to ride home, it has to have your punch in the Shopper's Transfer area, is that right?
Mr. McWatters. That is correct, yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Did you know, did you remember, an elderly woman getting on your bus some place on Elm after you left St. Paul?
Mr. McWatters. Not that I recall.