Mrs. Ford. Approximately 4 years ago, a little over 4 years.
Mr. Liebeler. I want to ask you a few questions about Mr. Skotnicki and some of the people that he knew.
Do you still have any friends that were your friends when you were married to Mr. Skotnicki?
Mrs. Ford. Yes; I would think, some neighbors, I would say that we would be still—we don't see together, acquaintances together with those friends but I am sure they are still friendly. He is still friendly with the same people as I am. I would say Campbells down on 6468 Lane, the old house still stands there I would think he would still be friendly with them, and I know them very well.
Mr. Liebeler. You don't continue to see Mr. Skotnicki in any way, do you?
Mrs. Ford. No, no; I have no reason for it.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you know whether or not Mr. Skotnicki has a friend by the name of John M. Grizzaffi? That is spelled G-r-i-z-z-a-f-f-i.
Mrs. Ford. I think that he is friends, yes. It is a neighbor across the street. He was friendly with that man.
Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us just a little bit about Mr. Grizzaffi, if you know about him?
Mrs. Ford. I think he is in grocery business, that is what I know about him, and I believe, I wouldn't say he is busy in local politics but he is always talking about people he knows around town that are in politics, and that is about all I know. I was never very friendly with his wife and so I just know a little bit about him.